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張貼者: 老K
張貼時間: 2009/06/25
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專為比賽設計...超高價格,超新設計,超??!!~~**....
不知如何形容!!請看以下節錄的警示用語.
WARNING: These NOWAR products are designed to be used in competition only and, as any other products designed for absolute performance, they will not receive any warranty. To choose a component for ultimate performance has a price, and this price is no warranty.
意思和買中國大陸產品一樣,斷了壞了...只能去“狗牛賽"!!!
所以不知如何形容!!
http://www.nowarlabel.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4&Itemid=3&lang=en
不知如何形容!!請看以下節錄的警示用語.
WARNING: These NOWAR products are designed to be used in competition only and, as any other products designed for absolute performance, they will not receive any warranty. To choose a component for ultimate performance has a price, and this price is no warranty.
意思和買中國大陸產品一樣,斷了壞了...只能去“狗牛賽"!!!
所以不知如何形容!!
http://www.nowarlabel.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4&Itemid=3&lang=en
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回應者: FrankYueh
回應時間: 2009/06/26
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真是心怕怕.
NOWAR - 故名思義 NO WARranty
看來K124系列出了個副牌是沒有保固的, 是不是因為東西做到了一個極限, 廠商都不敢做出任何保證?
那如果是出場就有問題, 那樣是可以賠嗎?
不過裡面只有兩個產品, 一個是輪框. 另一個則是咖奔握把.
幸好它們都很昂貴, 我們大家都碰不到!!
NOWAR - 故名思義 NO WARranty
看來K124系列出了個副牌是沒有保固的, 是不是因為東西做到了一個極限, 廠商都不敢做出任何保證?
那如果是出場就有問題, 那樣是可以賠嗎?
不過裡面只有兩個產品, 一個是輪框. 另一個則是咖奔握把.
幸好它們都很昂貴, 我們大家都碰不到!!
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回應者: Kevin
回應時間: 2009/06/26
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the carbon bar feels soooo good though haha!
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回應者: 小魚
回應時間: 2009/06/26
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以後可能會出個124WAR系列
就是保固124年
但有錢人還是會去買TRYALL
才不會去買大陸牌的
這種情況就有點像是F1賽車
它的零件都設計成能撐完整場比賽為原則
說不定自家的轎車都比F1耐用
就是保固124年
但有錢人還是會去買TRYALL
才不會去買大陸牌的
這種情況就有點像是F1賽車
它的零件都設計成能撐完整場比賽為原則
說不定自家的轎車都比F1耐用
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回應者: Leo
回應時間: 2009/06/26
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Hello Everybody.
Sorry to not reply in Chinese.
About NOWAR, we wanted to purpose for the riders the same lightest and perfect products than the PRO rider like Gilles Coustellier and Vincent Hermance.
We have worked really hard with our partners (not form China ;) ) to make the best parts ever.
These parts are really light, but not weak.
BUT these parts are for competition. High Competition.
And in competition, the riders know and understand the products are so light and so optimized for competition than you must change some parts often to ride always in safe way.
Like a F1, nobody ask the F1 to ride 150,000km with the same motor :)
NOWAR is this philosophy. Race only.
No problem for all the riders, if they don't want spend $ in these products, we continue to launch good products and warranty products with TryAll.
Another example is the Freewheel.
We are finishing the BEST freewheel ever.
More precision, more lifetime, stronger, lighter.
We have worked really hard, spend time and money to create a better product for trial.
And we will launch 2 versions:
1 TRYALL version, good price and high quality and lifetime.
1 NOWAR version, a little more expensive, more precise but maybe a little less lifetime...
So the rider has the choice.
It's good
And no it's not Chinese products, and you don't trash your money on the water if you buy NOWAR.
Thank you
Ps: Vincent Hermance rides with the SAME carbons bars on his training bike (3h by day ; 7 days by week !) since more than 6 months without problem...
Never before a Alloy bar was so strong ! No Bad !? if you ride 5-10h by week and tough like Vincent, you can ride for a while ;)
PS2: I can advice you if you ride enough to change your Stem/Handlebar 1 time by year.
It's more safe... TryAll or the brand you want... just for safety.
Sorry to not reply in Chinese.
About NOWAR, we wanted to purpose for the riders the same lightest and perfect products than the PRO rider like Gilles Coustellier and Vincent Hermance.
We have worked really hard with our partners (not form China ;) ) to make the best parts ever.
These parts are really light, but not weak.
BUT these parts are for competition. High Competition.
And in competition, the riders know and understand the products are so light and so optimized for competition than you must change some parts often to ride always in safe way.
Like a F1, nobody ask the F1 to ride 150,000km with the same motor :)
NOWAR is this philosophy. Race only.
No problem for all the riders, if they don't want spend $ in these products, we continue to launch good products and warranty products with TryAll.
Another example is the Freewheel.
We are finishing the BEST freewheel ever.
More precision, more lifetime, stronger, lighter.
We have worked really hard, spend time and money to create a better product for trial.
And we will launch 2 versions:
1 TRYALL version, good price and high quality and lifetime.
1 NOWAR version, a little more expensive, more precise but maybe a little less lifetime...
So the rider has the choice.
It's good
And no it's not Chinese products, and you don't trash your money on the water if you buy NOWAR.
Thank you
Ps: Vincent Hermance rides with the SAME carbons bars on his training bike (3h by day ; 7 days by week !) since more than 6 months without problem...
Never before a Alloy bar was so strong ! No Bad !? if you ride 5-10h by week and tough like Vincent, you can ride for a while ;)
PS2: I can advice you if you ride enough to change your Stem/Handlebar 1 time by year.
It's more safe... TryAll or the brand you want... just for safety.
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回應者: 小魚
回應時間: 2009/06/26
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無保固還夠專業級選手用6個月
夠本了
大陸牌能撐6個月的話，大概就不會被稱作〝狗牛塞〞了
看真是一分錢一分貨啊
沒錢還是只能用大陸牌
夠本了
大陸牌能撐6個月的話，大概就不會被稱作〝狗牛塞〞了
看真是一分錢一分貨啊
沒錢還是只能用大陸牌
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回應者: 橘祖
回應時間: 2009/06/26
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心中有感很難得會有設計製造的廠商出面說明願景及目標，所以幫忙翻譯一下，以下為引用Leo說的話：引用 Leo 的文章-
大家好,
抱歉無法用中文回
關於NOWAR，我們希望提供與專業車手如Gilles及Vincent同樣輕且完美的產品給一般的車友。我們與我們的夥伴花費很大的心力來製作最佳的產品。
這些元件非常的輕但卻不脆弱，但這些元件主要還是為高度的競賽中使用，並且這些參與競賽的車友也了解這些產品是質輕且為了競賽而做最佳化的，因此你將需要常更換這些元件來避免發生意外。如同F1一般，沒人會要求這些競賽用的引擎會能夠使用超過150,000公里。
NOWAR是種哲學，為競賽而生。
這對一般的車友不會造成困擾，因為不想要花大錢在這些產品上的車友，可以考慮使用我們持續推出且具有保固的良好產品TryAll。
以另一個例子飛輪來說明，我們正在製作有史以來最佳的飛輪。更佳的精準度，用得更久，更輕且更強壯。我們真的很努力並花費許多金錢與時間為攀岩車創造更棒的產品。
未來我們將會發售兩種版本：
1. TRYALL版本，不錯的價格、品質及使用壽命。
2. NOWAR版本，較貴及較短的壽命，但有極佳的精準度。
車友們能夠有所選擇，這是好事。
並且這些不是中國製產品，所以不用擔心購買NOWAR相等於將錢丟進垃圾桶裡。
謝謝。
註一: Vincent在他的平時訓練用車上使用同樣的Carbon手把(一天三小時，一周騎七天)，並且使用超過六個月沒有發生任何問題。在此之前甚至沒有鋁製的手把如此強壯，還不錯!!若你騎車的風格像Vincent那麼強悍，那麼這支手把夠你用一陣子了!!
註二：我建議各位使用你的手把/龍頭每使用一年過後就該更換，這樣會較安全，無論是使用TryAll或任何其他品牌，僅是為了你的安全著想。
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回應者: 哲哲
回應時間: 2009/06/26
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特殊領域的產品
當講究到最極限
純為競賽而生的時候
不為產品擔保是滿常見的情形
日系四大車廠所出的
公升級廠隊版、還有著名的SUPERMOTO系列
像CRF 450出廠時會在車上貼一張標示
"此車一離開工廠，你要拿去幹什麼，結果都跟本工廠無關"
所以購買的買家必須知道極高的效能所必須承擔的風險
但是通常這些最兇悍的東西，除了好用，也不見得就不耐用
而這類使用者也都能夠清楚了解各個零件的使用耗損，進而更換
這跟大陸廠所說的產品沒有保固
完全是美食與餿水的差別
當講究到最極限
純為競賽而生的時候
不為產品擔保是滿常見的情形
日系四大車廠所出的
公升級廠隊版、還有著名的SUPERMOTO系列
像CRF 450出廠時會在車上貼一張標示
"此車一離開工廠，你要拿去幹什麼，結果都跟本工廠無關"
所以購買的買家必須知道極高的效能所必須承擔的風險
但是通常這些最兇悍的東西，除了好用，也不見得就不耐用
而這類使用者也都能夠清楚了解各個零件的使用耗損，進而更換
這跟大陸廠所說的產品沒有保固
完全是美食與餿水的差別
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回應者: ㄚ龍
回應時間: 2009/06/26
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回應者: 老K
回應時間: 2009/07/03
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天底下矛盾的事本來就很多hahaha
有矛盾才有討論,
有討論才有真相,
找Leo問問,應該能買到吧!!
有矛盾才有討論,
有討論才有真相,
找Leo問問,應該能買到吧!!
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回應者: 老K
回應時間: 2009/07/03
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沒保固的品質,有保固的價格,才是人人愛的極品.引用 小魚 的文章-既然TRYALL NO WAR手把是無保固
那有哪些牌...
聽起來就很矛盾（在本板中確合理）
到底哪一種才正確??霧裡看花!!!!
hahaha
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回應者: FrankYueh
回應時間: 2009/07/03
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回應者: 老K
回應時間: 2009/07/03
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會提出這篇文引用 FrankYueh 的文章-"每個人心中都有一把尺" 引用自橘組
沒有什麼絕對不...
主要是希望“尺“的刻度是一樣的
不只對產品,而是對任何事,包含選老婆.
hahahahhahahahahahaha
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回應者: FrankYueh
回應時間: 2009/07/03
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